Thursday, May 18, 2017

Words for Chris Cornell



Like many, I started my day deeply saddened by the news of Chris Cornell’s passing.

Chris’ work with Soundgarden has been a major part of my experience as a music fan since I snuck downstairs as a young kid in the late ‘80s and saw the video for “Loud Love” on Headbangers Ball. I loved them instantly. When the Seattle scene overtook the music world two years later, Soundgarden remained the strongest band of the lot. Then came Superunknown – in my opinion, the definitive masterpiece of that era. That was more than a record – that was truly a soundtrack for a generation. It also solidified this man’s immortality.

Last year while visiting Seattle, I was delighted to come across the Sub Pop store at the Seattle–Tacoma International Airport. I immediately went to find some Soundgarden, and I walked away with (among many other goodies) the double-vinyl reissue of Screaming Life/Fopp. Listening to it now as I write this, I’m amazed by how well this music holds up three decades after it was recorded. Truly hard-hitting and innovative. (I’ll even go this far - “Nothing To Say” could have found a comfortable spot on The Stooges’ Fun House.) It is heartbreaking to know that Chris and Soundgarden will now be referred to in the past tense forever.

But my God, the power I’m feeling in these grooves right now is immense.

As of this writing, many reports are stating that Chris’ death was likely a suicide. That makes this morning’s news all the more intolerable. Today serves as another reminder that we must always keep an eye on those closest to us – those who seem to have an idyllic existence on the surface might actually be the ones with the greatest potential to say goodbye too soon. If anything positive comes out of today, please let it be the greater ability for us all to spot someone’s decline before it is too late.

Rest in Peace Chris.




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Thursday, May 11, 2017

Where the Alphabet Starts with Z: Revisiting Tones on Tail (and More) with Poptone



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“I sound 25 years younger than I did a month ago!”

Those were among the first words former Bauhaus/Tones on Tail/Love and Rockets guitarist Daniel Ash said over the phone to me following an especially productive rehearsal at a studio in Burbank. The level of enthusiasm in Ash’s voice was hard to ignore as he detailed the birth of Poptone, the new band he has formed with drummer and fellow Bauhaus/Tones on Tail/Love and Rockets bandmate Kevin Haskins and Haskins’ daughter Diva Dompe. Poptone offer a career-spanning set encompassing music from all three of the pair’s legendary acts. Longtime fans who’ve loved Tones On Tail’s sole album (1984’s Pop) and Ash’s lead vocal turns in Bauhaus or Love and Rockets now have an opportunity to witness these moments in a live setting.

After making their onstage debut via two sold-out shows at the Swing House in Los Angeles late last month, Poptone launches a tour tonight in Tempe, AZ that will keep them on the road through October. (Confirmed dates – with more to come – are available HERE.) Additionally, the band have launched a PledgeMusic campaign for a digital album (due out in October) culled from live studio recordings and the best of the 2017 shows.

Poptone is a dream come true for those who grew up absolutely loving this material (most of which hasn’t been performed live in nearly a quarter century), but the reality is that this whole thing wasn’t supposed to happen at all. For years, Ash had absolutely no interest in performing live on stage, let along playing any of these songs in front of an audience. One evening earlier this year, he fell asleep in his living room while listening to music on headphones. When he awoke several hours later, the desire to hit the stage was once again at the forefront of his mind.

“I can’t explain it; it suddenly, after all these years, felt completely right at that moment in time. It was a complete turnaround from what I had been thinking for many years…It suddenly became apparent at that time that I should actually go out and play live again. I never thought I would do that. It just crystal clear to me at four o’ clock in the morning; it was so obvious. People had been pestering me to do it for a long time. We have a guy named Christopher the Minister; he’s basically our manager and a personal friend of mine for many years. He’s wanted me to go out for years and years, but it’s never felt right. I really got burnt out and jaded with the whole thing several years ago. I was just told that it’s been about eight or nine years – maybe even 11 years – since I’ve actually gone out on the road.”

Before long, Ash was talking with Haskins about where to go next. Like Bauhaus and Love and Rockets (which both featured Haskins’ brother, the incomparable David J, on bass and occasional vocals), Poptone is a family affair. When the topic of a bass player came up, Dompe was a clear choice.

“The chemistry is really good; she really fit in instantly,” says Haskins. “It’s like finding the missing piece of a jigsaw puzzle that fits perfectly. I find that, as a rhythm unit, we lock in really well.”

No stranger to performing, Dompe has been releasing “utopian avant-Pop” music for years now. Formerly of the Los Angeles band BlackBlack (which featured her sister, Lola, on drums), Dompe is working on her fourth full-length album, Fungal Symbiotic Cyborg Astral Humanoid, which is her first release under the moniker “Diva” since 2015’s Divinity in Thee. Last month, she released Zjumk, an autonomous sensory meridian response (ASMR)-triggering instrumental New Age album under the moniker Yialmelic Frequencies. (The Bandcamp page for the release describes it “musical experimentations from Starseed Diva Dompe channeled from her home planet Yialmel.”) Dompe’s various creative and/or meditative adventures are detailed on her official website.

Naturally, she had more than a passing familiarity with all three of her father’s bands growing up.

“I definitely appreciate it from a fan-listener perspective. I think my dad’s always been in really innovative bands.”

So which of the three groups does she prefer the most?

“I feel like it changes as I go through different changes in my life. Maybe I would have been more into Bauhaus as a teenager and kind of matched that energy a little bit more, but I really like the innovation and quirkiness of Tones on Tail. I’ve also really been just enjoying the Love and Rockets songs a lot. It kind of has a happy Pop side to it, much more than the other bands.”





“When Kevin suggested to me that Diva audition on bass, I immediately said yes,” says Ash of Dompe’s arrival in Poptone. “I love the way she looks; I was thinking, ‘If she can play as good as she looks, it’ll be fantastic!’ She’s very visual, and I think that’s going to be very powerful for the band. She’s great new blood in a band setup like this anyway, and the fact that she’s Kevin’s daughter is of great interest to the public. I think it’s going to be a real plus. The chemistry between the three of us is great. It’s quite quirky; it’s not obvious Rock ‘n’ Roll at all, because Diva’s not like that. She’s not a Rock chick at all. I like her whole persona a lot. It’s not that obvious Rock ‘n’ Roll thing. That’s very appealing to me. We’ll put it this way – This is not Metallica! It’s very Tones on Tail.”

Fans who’ve heard the songs that comprise the wildly eclectic (if sadly short) Tones on Tail discography know exactly what Ash means. Formed in 1982 as a side project away from the then-peaking Bauhaus, Tones on Tail found Ash (and eventually Haskins) joining forces with bassist Glenn Campling. A pair of EPs (1982’s eponymous effort and ’83’s Burning Skies) preceded the release of Pop, a solid – if utterly bizarre – album that elevated the vibe of Bauhaus’ more experimental moments to the nth degree. The whole Tones on Tail adventure was over by ’84, with Ash and Haskins soon to reunite with David J for a long career as Love and Rockets and Campling settling down with a career in commercial art. Unless they somehow caught Tones on Tail’s small American live jaunt 33 years ago, the Poptone tour is the first time that US audiences will be able to experience this material live.

In an uncommon move, Poptone recently posted their entire set list on their Facebook pagerevealing an intriguing selection of songs that weighs heavily on Tones On Tail’s limited (but greatly revered) back catalog.

“We’re basically choosing the tracks that we perceive that people want to hear,” Ash explains. “They don’t want to hear some obscure number from a solo album; they want to hear their favorite tracks. I can’t say ‘hits,’ because we didn’t exactly have any hits; none of the bands were really commercial in that respect. But we’re looking at the tracks that we think are obvious that people want to hear. It’s very simple; we’re not playing anything obscure.”

(For the record, the set does include “Flame On,” a track from Ash’s long-running solo career.  Additionally, they’ll be performing covers of Elvis Presley’s “Heartbreak Hotel” – which they used to do live with Tones On Tail – and Adam and the Ants’ “Physical.”)

Not surprisingly, going back in time to re-live the Tones on Tail era has been an interesting experience for Haskins, who had to dig up the old sound effects used during the band’s original run for the current string of dates. (“He has them all on floppy discs!” says Dompe.) Like Ash, he is excited to finally be able to perform this work for a new generation.

“Once a year over the past three or four years, Daniel and I talked about doing Tones on Tail again. For both of us, it was one of our favorite projects, and it’s never been revisited…It really didn’t get to see much light of day. So we kind of thought it would be fun and great to do those songs. They still stand up today and sound interesting. From mostly talking to my daughters’ friends and going to events, I just got a feeling that [both] young and old people would be interested and really excited to hear that material. Plus, Daniel sang all those songs, whereas we’re a little bit limited with Bauhaus and, to a certain degree, Love and Rockets as well with song choices.

“I must give Glenn Campling a nod, because his input on Tones on Tail was amazing,” he adds. “He’s a super-talented guy, and everything he came up with – bass lines, keyboard parts, vocal harmonies – was amazing work.”

(After years out of the spotlight, Campling recently resurfaced with a new project called Lonestation.)





Those who catch a Poptone show will take part in a celebration of a musical history that has spanned three bands and nearly four decades. Not surprisingly, the experience of working with Haskins and Dompe in this way has led Ash to reflect on his past – especially his brief-but-fruitful time with Tones On Tail.

“The chemistry in Love and Rockets, Tones on Tail and Bauhaus is very, very different. It’s weird; give or take a member and it completely changes with the chemistry of the people in those three bands. I do recall though with Tones on Tail, it was the most fun for me. There were no commercial pressures whatsoever, but at the same time, I did want to make commercially accessible records. I wanted to make music that sounded like it came from another planet, but it was very accessible and not just obscure for the sake of it. I think we achieved that with Tones on Tail. We’ve been rehearsing songs like ‘Twist,’ which is a very strange, funny song. The lyrics in that are really on a planet where the alphabet starts with ‘Z.’ It did sound like music from elsewhere, and it’s dated very well. If you listen to that stuff now, it could have been made by some band last week. [Tones on Tail] could have happened in 1983, 1973 or 2017. I think it stood the test of time really well. You can’t really pinpoint it; it doesn’t really sound like anything else. I remember at the time that I was very influence by [Brian Eno’s] Here Come the Warm Jets in particular, where Eno would use various styles of music and join them together to create a new sound. I think that’s something we did with Tones to a degree.”

More than three decades after the release of Pop, Ash remains proud of the release and what the project accomplished during its sporadic two-year career.  

“It’s definitely a minority who knew about it. We put that album out, and we did a tiny, little tour in England in 1983 and a tiny, little tour in the US. But because [Pop] was a great album, it sort of built up over the years. It got a reputation because it was one of those special records. I’m not embarrassed by saying that, because I’m satisfied with looking back [on it]. You can listen to it now and it still sounds fresh, and that I’m pleased about.”

The Poptone set also includes the Bauhaus classic “Slice of Life.” Although it remains a brilliant number and one of the brightest spots in Bauhaus’ recorded history, the track had a considerable influence on the band’s tumultuous breakup in 1983 – ultimately leading singer Peter Murphy to split with the other three members for 15 years.

“The first two weeks we were in the studio, the original idea was for us three to go in there and put some backing tracks down, because Pete got double pneumonia,” Ash recalls. “The chemistry was completely different. We were originally just going to put backing tracks down, and then a couple of the tracks turned into fully finished ones – ‘Who Killed Mr. Moonlight?’ and ‘Slice of Life.’ That was the beginning of the end for Bauhaus, because the chemistry had changed… I think it had started to fracture the whole Bauhaus thing. It was getting to that stage where it had gone as far as it was going to go.”

The resultant album, 1983’s Burning from the Inside, remained Bauhaus’ final studio release for 25 years. After successful (if at times internally combative) reunions in 1998 and 2005, the band reconvened in the studio in 2006 to record what was eventually released two years later as Go Away White. By then, Bauhaus had once again disintegrated, leaving Go Away White to wither on the vine without a tour or even promotional interviews to support it. With even diehard fans often unaware of the album’s existence (and thus missing out on “Adrenalin,” “Black Stone Heart,” “Zikir” and other absolutely stellar moments), the album is destined to wallow in obscurity – which suits Ash just fine.   

“I don’t ever listen to that album. I personally have got bad memories of when it was recorded. We were in the studio for a grand total of three weeks; we wrote, recorded, produced and mixed everything in three weeks. I have to say the atmosphere was not good in the studio. We sort of all dissipated after those three weeks. I can’t comment on that album; I can’t listen to it. I’ve just got bad memories of making of it…I don’t know what the public perception is of that record; I just keep having to keep away from it. It’s all the way in the back on my mind. I don’t ever think about that record.”

Haskins is slightly more complimentary towards Bauhaus’ apparent swan song.

“For some reason, just last week, I don’t know what I was doing, but I did listen to a couple of tracks. Maybe it was just in my car and they came on; I’m not sure – it was very random. I seriously haven’t listened to it in years, so I can listen to it more objectively [now]. It kind of surprised me; it didn’t really feel like, ‘This is a Bauhaus song,’ but it was good. It’s difficult to critique your own work. When we finished it, it didn’t really feel in a general sense like Bauhaus or the image of Bauhaus I have in my head. I think it holds up, but it sounds like a bit of a different band to me. It’s a very odd feeling to think about it. Although the early work had a certain kind of eclectic nature to each record, it has a strong identity. I think Go Away White has a strong identity, but it has a different one.”




Of course, the fact that Ash and Haskins are working together again – and throwing “Slice of Life” into the mix – has led many (this writer included) to inquire about the possibility of the two working in some capacity with Murphy and David J again. After all, all four members of Bauhaus are still among the living, while Haskins and David J are brothers. What are the chances of the four co-existing creatively once again – either as Bauhaus or under an entirely different umbrella?

“I have no idea,” replies Ash. “If you said to me a year ago that I’d be doing this right now, I would have said, ‘Not in a million years.’ I’ve given up on giving predictions on stuff like that now, because with the creative process, you just really don’t know what is around the corner. I often think that it’s actually out of the individual’s control; it’s something that comes over them. I never would have thought two months ago that I’d have this revelation at four o’clock in the morning that what was blatantly obvious to do was go out and play in a band called Poptone with Kevin and Diva. I had no idea of that – not even a hint of it. Then, suddenly it came to me, and I don’t know where it came from. So I can’t answer you one way or the other; I’ve given up on answering that stuff.”

“I’ve learnt to never say never,” comments Haskins. “I didn’t think we would reform Bauhaus. With Love and Rockets, we did a couple of shows in 2008, and I didn’t think that would have happened. I certainly didn’t think what we’re doing now would happen. Like I said, once every year, Daniel and I would talk about doing some kind of project with the music from the bands, and he’s always been very resistant to that. I can understand some of that point of view, so I really didn’t think this was going to happen – and just out of the blue, it happened. [Another Bauhaus reunion] is possible; I feel it’s probably unlikely, but you never know.”

What does appear very likely at this point is that Ash and Haskins will enjoy working together with Dompe under the Poptone banner. Although the music business certainly isn’t known for building long-running working relationships (let alone long-standing friendships), the duo has stayed together through three bands and nearly four decades of career twists and turns. Clearly, something between them works.

“We get on really well,” offers Haskins. “We just really enjoy each other’s company, and we have a lot of fun. Daniel always makes me laugh – and not just [with] his appearance. I’m just kidding! He’s a very funny guy and very witty. We just have a good time, so I think obviously that helps. That’s a very important part of the puzzle.”

 “You have pretty different personalities,” observes Dompe to her dad. “You compliment each other, especially creatively and professionally. I kind of get to have what you have and what he has together.”

“He’s been in all three bands; there’s a constant there,” concludes Ash. “Add to that the fact that his daughter’s playing bass, and it’s quite a thing; I think it’s a bit of synchronicity going on there.”

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Sunday, March 5, 2017

Life through Death: Obituary's John Tardy Celebrates 30 Years of Brutality







They actually scared me.

It was barely the '90s, and I was barely in my teens. There I was, standing in a mass of people that was getting tighter and tighter. Before I knew it, my feet were off the ground as the crowd swayed back and forth to the dark sounds coming from the stage. I was too trapped to escape. As the force of the crowd pushed me back, Obituary singer John Tardy lunged forward – all blonde hair and screams.

“Turned inside ooooouuuuut!”

To John’s right stared the sunken eyes of guitarist Trevor Peres. I could feel the bodies around me close in even more. I was getting crushed… That's it... I was going to die... Somehow, I got out of there, but I'll never forget that moment when my life flashed before my eyes to the sounds of one of the most incendiary tracks on the Cause of Death album.

- Joel Gausten, 2013 

A lot has happened in the underground music world in the quarter century since the events described above took place, but Obituary is still here – dutifully delivering some of the most vicious Metal you’ll hear on this planet. Out on Relapse Records on March 17, Obituary’s eponymous 10th album is easily the heaviest thing to hit my desk so far in 2017. From the charge of album opener “Brave” to album highlights “Kneel Before Me” and “End It Now” to the punishing conclusion of “Ten Thousand Ways To Die,” this 10-track onslaught doesn’t let up for a second. In fact, it is not a stretch to place the album alongside the band’s first three albums – 1989’s Slowly We Rot, 1990’s Cause of Death and 1992’s The End Complete – a trio of releases as important to the development of American Death Metal as the first three Ramones albums were to the development of American Punk. Some groups mellow with age, but that doesn’t appear to be an issue for Obituary in the slightest.

Along with original members John Tardy, Trevor Peres and drummer Donald Tardy, the current incarnation of Obituary is completed by guitarist Kenny Andrews and veteran bassist Terry Butler (Death/Massacre/Six Feet Under). In 2013, Obituary made headlines when they launched a Kickstarter campaign for what eventually become their ninth album, 2014Inked in Blood. Although the band initially asked for $10,000, fans around the world helped them raise nearly $61,000.

The band’s huge success with crowdfunding – and their surprising subsequent decision to return to working with a label  – is one of the many topics I brought up with the extremely affable John Tardy when I recently phoned him for an update on all things Obituary.  


Why did you guys wait until your 10th release to do a self-titled album?

I don’t know; we really didn’t think that much about it. We don’t overthink things, and we don’t over-complicate things; we just kind to go with what we feel. I don’t know if there was any one reason in particular. We saw the artwork and we just liked the plain logo against the black background, and I guess we just really didn’t want to include an album title on that. Also, there were so many good songs on the record that it was kind of hard for everybody to agree and pinpoint one down and call the album after that. I didn’t even realize it was our 10th album until we started doing some of these interviews and people started pointing it out. With that in there also, it’s kind of fitting and it feels right at this point in time just to go ahead and roll with a self-titled album.

This is your second album now with Terry and Kenny in the band. How has having them involved ultimately impacted what Obituary is able to do at this point in time?

It is awesome. We do a lot of touring with a lot of bands, and there’s nothing worse than when you have a band that maybe has a couple of members who can’t be dependable. Right now, we just feel like everything is just rolling for us really good, and we’re just firing on all cylinders, we’re sounding great live and we’ve just been having a ball with it. I’ve know Terry since before I was even in Obituary and before he was in Massacre. I’ve known him for so long that it almost feels like he’s been in the band that long, to be honest with you. We’ve known Kenny for a long time, and he did some guitar teching for us and he filled in on bass for one tour with us. We’ve had a long history with Kenny. When things kind of ended with [former guitarist] Ralph [Santolla], I don’t even remember having a conversation on what we were going to do about a guitar player. It was almost just like, ‘Hey, Kenny, come on over and let’s just do this.’ It just kind of fell right in place. It’s awesome to have a band as tight as we are. We can be on a six-week tour piled on a bus, and we might have a rare day off and we’ll all call each other and say, ‘Hey, what time do you guys want to go meet for dinner?’ We’re just that kind of band; we all hook up and go out for dinner even though we’ve been on tour with each other for six weeks. That’s just kind of how we roll; it’s been really tight. It’s a great lineup for us right now. We’re really, really happy with the way things are going.

A lot of bands just come out of the gate with rage, speed and heaviness, but there’s always been an element of groove in Obituary’s music. Where did that come from? What was the inspiration for that in the band’s development?

I don’t know, man, but we do thrive on that. There’s definitely that thing. We like to go fast, but we like to really slow things down. I call it the ‘meat and potatoes’ rhythms that we come up with that just make the songs and make Obituary Obituary. I don’t know if I can exactly explain it; we don’t sit and fret all day long [and think], ‘We’ve got to do this and we’ve got to do that.’ We just kind of write songs, and the way they come out is the way they come out. Fortunately, those ‘meat and potatoes’ groove rhythms that just kind of get things going are what we thrive on and what make things fun... When we come across those cool groove rhythms, we just know right off the bat. We’re just like, ‘Man, we can’t wait to play that thing live!’ We can image 80,000 people in some festival or something kicking to that rhythm and going crazy. It’s definitely what makes Obituary Obituary, for sure.


Left to right: Kenny Andrews, Donald Tardy, John Tardy, Trevor Peres, Terry Butler (Photo by Ester Segarra)

You crowdfunded your last record and did extremely well doing it that way, but when that album came out, it was released on Relapse. Because the crowdfunding campaign was successful for you guys, why did you ultimately continue on a more traditional path and go with a label to do these last two records?

It’s an interesting thing. First of all, we’re the type of band that likes to do almost everything we can ourselves. We handle all of our business; we handle booking all of our own flights, hotel rooms and travel. We literally build our own websites; we handle all of our stuff. We do so much of everything ourselves; we make our own decisions and like to do all that we can. It started several albums ago; we were like, ‘Man, let’s just try to do this thing ourselves.’ Trevor and I would sit down and take notes and make phone calls and do things, and then we would tap out at the end of the day and say, ‘You know what? This is getting to be too much and we’re running out of time.’ We really got close with the last album to doing it… You’ve got two huge problems here with trying to do something on your own. The biggest one, I think, is distribution. You just can’t pull up with your car and a box of CDs and say, ‘Hey, will you guys distribute these CDs for us?’ It just doesn’t work that way. They want catalogs and catalogs of music; they make all these deals with these big record companies. Distribution is just a tough situation. No matter what you do, you’re going to need to get help from somebody on distribution at some point in time.

The other hard thing is marketing. It’s doable; the world’s much smaller than it used to be, and you can get away with a lot of things and kind of do that on your own. With a few phone calls, you can kind of do it, but if you really want to do a really professional, upfront thing and really be able to contact the people, you’re probably going to need some help. When we met the guys from Relapse, they were so cool about wanting to do whatever it is we wanted to do. They were like, ‘Hey, you guys just tell us what you want us to do, and we’re in. We’ll help you guys any which way we can.’ That was really important for us, because you’re looking at a band that, hell, we signed some contracts [when] we were with Roadrunner back when we were in high school, and they were just terrible. It’s music that we still don’t own today and music that I still can’t do anything with - all those early Roadrunner albums. It’s a painful lesson. It hurts to go back and look at those albums; it’s like, ‘God, I’d just like to have those back so I could do whatever I wanted with them.’ But it’s just not going to happen. What we were able to do with Relapse is maintain all that. We own all the music…That control and ownership of your music is so just awesome and such a good feeling to have. Working with Relapse has just been an absolute dream. It’s a collaboration with them that makes it so nice. It’s by no means a traditional record label. We get a lot more flexibility and a lot more ownership with the agreement we have and being able to own all that music.

The crowdfunding thing was great. Those Obituary fans who showed up and pre-ordered the thing… It was pretty touching to see that amount of support come out from them. We learned a lot, because we just wound up offering so many things... All we really wanted to do was to get people to pre-order the album, and then we offered bundles of a bunch of other cool stuff that you could get for a fraction of the price if you were to buy it. We really wound up offering way too much; it was a major project. We did it all ourselves; we all sat back here in this garage and we wrapped up and sent almost 1,000 packages out to people, and it was a ton of work and probably something I would not do again. But the fan support was quite cool to see.




The first time I saw you guys live was in 1992 on the Complete Control Tour with Agnostic Front. That was such a cool tour because it was so eclectic. What stands out in your mind from particular tour and era?

That was great! I thought that was a great mix. If I want to go out and see a show for the night, the last thing I want to see is four or five Death Metal bands right in a row that are just all doing the same thing, you know? To mix it up a little bit, to me, makes the night more fun. It’s good to hear a variety – without getting crazy, obviously. People aren’t going to want to go out and hear a Death Metal band, a Country band and then some Jazz band or something. You can’t get too crazy. We did our first Florida Metal Fest last year, and Madball came and played it. We had Trouble play it, we had C.O.C. play it and Obituary and Deicide played. It was a fun lineup; it was all good bands. That tour in particular with the A.F. guys was just awesome. We were all real young at the time. You’re looking at some of the first touring that we had ever done. To this day, we have a good relationship with those guys. We met Freddie from Madball [on that tour], and he’s a great friend of ours. You can look back at the friendships on every tour that you do, but that’s one in particular that was just cool, and I think it was one of those trendsetting kind of things where you can mix some Hardcore and some Metal at the same time, because those bands aren’t all that different from each other, even though they are somewhat different. Actually, Freddie puts on a festival in New York every year, and he asked us to play it this year. We’re trying to see if we can get that lined up to go and do that. He calls us up and goes, ‘Look, man. I know it’s a Hardcore festival, but these Hardcore fans all love Obituary, man! You guys gotta come play!’ Obituary has enjoyed that small bit of fans [in the Hardcore scene], and I think it goes right back to what you said earlier about those grooves in the music and the rhythms that we can get into. Those Hardcore fans love it when you can really get a crowd moving.

The band’s a couple decades into your career at this point, and you guys obviously play intense music that is physically demanding. I’ve seen young bands go on tour and get burned out after six weeks. What has been the trick to keeping yourselves in a proper space where you’re able to maintain your intensity through not only one tour, but multiple tours over multiple years and keep the ball in the air?

There’s not really any secret to it for us per se, other than when you get along with the people you’re with and just generally enjoy being around them, that’s your first hurdle for any band... The first thing that has to happen is you have to have tight band members who you’re happy to be around; there’s no questioning that. We also do so much of this stuff on our own that we’ve just kind of gotten good at taking care of ourselves, making our lives easy, knowing when not to push too much and knowing when to say, ‘You know what? We’re going to get hotel rooms’ and making the little decisions to make our lives easy so it’s not a frantic rush and everything’s out of control. When everything is nice and organized, you know what’s going on, everybody’s informed and everybody knows what’s happening and things go smoothly, that’s also real helpful.

You’re 30 years and 10 albums into Obituary. What are your big goals moving forward? What has this band yet to accomplish?

Coming from a band that really didn’t plan on doing the first album, to look back and see where we’ve been and what we’ve been through, we’re pretty satisfied. I think if this was our last album, I don’t think any of us would sit and look back 10 years from now and think, ‘God, I wish we would have done it longer.’ I think we’ve been pretty fortunate; we’ve had a great run at what we’ve been doing. We’ve had absolutely life-changing experiences touring around the world to fortysomething countries. It’s been awesome. At this point in time, as long as we’re still having fun and we want to do things – we want to go on a tour and we don’t need to go on a tour, and we want to do an album and we don’t need to do an album – whatever happens from here on out is just kind of gravy. As long as we’re having fun, we’ll continue to do it. If something is not so fun, then it’s something that we’re not going to get into.
*Portions of the above interview were edited for length and clarity. 

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